Well I have seen a therapist and read books and did internet research And I know I have OCD. My problem is I am teriffied to take meds and I have heard some people smoke medical marijuana but marijuna gives me panic attacks. And If I get and strange feelings of that sort I'll get a panic attack. How can I tone my anxiety down? I have problems with negative thoughts like something bad is going to happen if I don't do certian rituals so to speak. Plus when I get nervous I bite the sides of my mouth. I don't know anyone whos does that. I feel like I am aquiring more rituals. I want to ease some away not gain more. I feel like I have way to many fears and just want to go about things normally. Whatever is defined as normal?
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Re: Need a bit of reasurance
Wed, September 26, 2007 - 4:43 PMIf your looking for something more herbal, try st. john's wort or kava-kava. I tried using weed as medicine, but it made me too anxious. -
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Wed, September 26, 2007 - 5:40 PMWhat is kava kava? Yeah When I tried smoking pot it made me have a panic attack. -
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Wed, September 26, 2007 - 5:51 PMKava kava is just another herb. I've heard alot people have used it to treat anxieties. I'd read up on anything to see if it's right for you though( Just in case you're on any other meds).
Also, you might want to look into vitamins as well. Sometimes something as simple as a B-complex can do wonders. -
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Wed, September 26, 2007 - 6:17 PMThanks alot, I will look into those things. I'm looking for a natural way to help me. -
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Wed, September 26, 2007 - 11:03 PMI chew the inside of my lower lip, on the left side. So you're not alone.
I've heard good and bad about Kava Kava. I would research it carefully, and as your doctor about it.
Pot made me paranoid at first, then I got used to how my mind thought on it. But as far as an OCD treatment... it's a way to relax, but I didn't like having the major "stupids" the next day. And you can't (well, you shouldn't) work stoned, so... heh. ;)
Exercise can help a little... sometimes keeping really busy and/or wiping yourself out physically can help reduce the obsessive thoughts, because you're just too tired (or too busy) to entertain them.
There are books you can read that help you to be "mindful", i.e., evaluate whether what you are feeling/doing is OCD related, or a valid fear. Like, realizing you're washing your hands a 2nd time due to OCD and not due to a valid fear.
But being mindful of your OCD is I think easier once you've had some time getting to experience what it's like to "think normally". And honestly, medication will allow you some "time off" from your OCD, to practice "normal thinking". That, coupled with reading books that help you cope with your OCD, and gain some control over it, will help you in the long run.
I'm on Zoloft. Admittedly, other people's mileage may vary, but it feels like a wonder drug to me now. It has helped me both with depression and OCD-anxiety. I am SO glad I was able to stay on it while pregnant!
Anyway, I know you want to do this naturally. And I wish you good luck with that. But even natural stuff can be dangerous.
Poison Oak is natural, but you don't go smoking that, LOL! -
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Thu, September 27, 2007 - 8:28 AMLots of pot these days is laced with PCP. That's what gives you the anxiety. A friend who only smokes pot tested positive for PCP. Wierd huh.
Try meditation. There are tons of books and classes to help you get started. It really helped me settle my brain. -
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Sat, September 29, 2007 - 8:48 AMIf you want to stay with natural stuff, I agree with most other posts here. If you've had bad experiences with pot, it's probably best not to push it. I have had, too. If you go with something like St. John's wort, I would definitely get it from a place that has knowledgible herbalists. Apparently, a lot of the Sy. John's wort on the market is pretty much useless. I tried it before giving in to meds, but for depression, which is what it's best known for. I think, but I'm not sure, that I used Traditional Medicinals brand. Anyway, it did help some. Also, again really for depression, there's something called 5-HTP which is supposed to work well. A worf of warning, though. If you use any natural remedies and then end up giving in to allopathic meds, give yourself at least a day in betwee, stopping the herbals and starting the meds, because they can interact in unpleasant ways, as I found out!
I really wish you luck--it would be great if you can do this naturally. Also, as someone mentioned, meditation really helps. Be patient with yourself; meditation uses the brain in unfamiliar ways, and it's kind of like strengthening new mental muscles. It might be really hard to focis at first, but gradually, it will get easier. A good way to start is simply to concentrate on your breathing. Try to breathe so that your stomache rises, but not your chest and count 33 breaths before stopping. This is really relaxing for me. Also, yoga would probably help a lot.
And if, in the end, you need to do the meds, don't feel like you've failed or something. There is only so much control we can have over our brain chemistry and we can't help that. I have found that allopathic (Western medicine) meds are the only thing that will really work to decrease my anxiety. -
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Sat, September 29, 2007 - 12:27 PMWhat is western medicine? I'm new to all the med's and stuff. -
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Sat, September 29, 2007 - 2:17 PMWestern medicine is basically getting a prescription from a doctor for something manufactured.
Eastern medicine is basically herbal stuff, even if it's been developed in the USA. It's commonly considered something from Asia, whether it be an Indian or Chinese or other sortof thing. The Chinese/Japanese have their own interesting take on medicine, and alot of ancient wisdom. They didn't lose it as they moved forward to the current century.
We "Westerners", however, got very used to things being discovered and manufactured, and are having to relearn ancient truths that Asians know, and that also many native Americans know.
Anyway, like acupressure or acupuncture is an Eastern sortof medicine.
Getting a prescription for an anti-biotic is more of a Western sortof thing.
I personally think there's room for both kinds of medicine. Don't toss out ancient wisdom when new discoveries are made, but don't toss out new discoveries when ancient wisdom is "rediscovered".
Ok, clear as mud? :) -
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Sat, September 29, 2007 - 2:39 PMWell put, Snoopy! -
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Sat, September 29, 2007 - 2:59 PMWow, thanks! :)
I guess I forgot one thing. Alot of "Eastern medicine" involves natural herbs, etc. They may of course be packaged in pill form, but you get the idea, LOL!
If you're drinking Green Tea, that's an Eastern discovery. And yeah, I drink it because it tastes good, takes care of my need for 1 dose of caffeine in the morning, and has all kinds of good antioxidants. [I only have one dose of caffeine in the morning because of being pregnant. When I'm done with being pregnant, will probably increase my doses again.]
I have to avoid sugar right now. [I have Gestational Diabetes.] I tried black coffee, but it doesn't do it for me. Tea however tastes awesome even w/o sugar. It's very subtle, and doesn't make me gag like black coffee does, LOL!
Actually, now I'm wondering... who discovered coffee? Wait, was that a South American thing? -
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Sat, September 29, 2007 - 3:35 PMYeah, I think so. It now grows wild all over the more jungle-y parts of South America. Don't know if it was just a native plant to start with or not, but I kinda think so. -
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Sat, September 29, 2007 - 4:53 PMYeah... am thinking it was one of the things the Europeans took back with them to Europe, along with tobacco.
And then, the Europeans got tea from the Orient.
And America got horses from the Europeans. Before the Europeans "discovered" America, the native Indians did not have horses to ride. ['Course, they also didn't have Smallpox, Chickenpox, etc., etc. :P The first incidences of biological terrorism, although accidental.] -
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Sun, September 30, 2007 - 9:26 AM"The first incidences of biological terrorism, although accidental." Well, unfortunately, it wasn't so accidental. Once the European settlers discovered that the Indians had no resistence to these diseases, they intentionally traded with them, giving them blankets infected with smallpox. Yeah, our forbearers were great people. Haven't really changed much, have we? -
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Sun, September 30, 2007 - 3:46 PMIck. Wonderful. :P I can't understand a people who are willing to wish such an illness on other people, much less intentionally infect them.
Reminds me of all the Indians who were forced to convert to Christianity or be killed. :P
Totally NOT the true Christian way of doing things. Christ could NOT have been pleased. :( Faith is a choice, not something to be FORCED upon others.
Yeah, unfortunately, we can be both horrible people, and wonderful people. It's a choice we make.
Wish we weren't so easily influenced to do the bad stuff.
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