My Confessions.

topic posted Mon, January 7, 2008 - 7:14 PM by  Draco
OCD does not necessarily actually pertain to 'acts' as such. It can also be a purely mental phenomena, images reeling off in the minds eye that you are powerless to stop. In fact, it was only recently that I realised that I do have Obsessive Compulsive Disorder. Then again, I'm not so sure it is a 'disorder' as such, these things are just part of who I am and they don't particularly interfere with my life.

They say that talking to yourself, is the first sign of madness (so what's the second?), and I confess that there are times when I do this, sometimes the instinct is very strong, other times it is mild, and there are periods where I do not do it at all.

When I say that I 'talk to myself', it isn't that I am actually having a conversation with myself as such, which sounds absurd to me, but often, my mind will become so busy with things, that I find it necessary to verbalise, it's like mental overspill, as if I am talking to somebody who is in front of me, and I don't know why I do this, but it is something I have done all of my life as far as I can remember. I have learned of course not to do this out loud, I just mutter under my breath, it is a compulsion that I am powerless to stop at times, and often I don't realise that I am doing it until I've been wittering on for a while and I become lucid of what I'm doing and think, 'My God, what a nutcase!'.

The times at which I have the greatest urge to verbalise my 'busy-mindedness', is always when I am alone, I may be sat up late at night with no television or music on, very content to just witter off the surplus thoughts in my head. It can be a very relieving experience, in fact, it really does feel as satisfying as having a conversation with someone who is actually there, to get things off your chest, out of your head.

The shower or bath is another place that I can often have a strong urge to witter, I suppose like other people get the urge to sing. I can remember my sister once banging on the bathroom door, and shouting, 'Who are you talking to in there!?', obviously, I was just wittering away to nobody in particular, and this was her point. This was at a time when the urge was incredibly strong, and I must have been doing it a little too enthusiastically, and not being quiet enough. I was very embarrased, and I stayed in there a long time before I dared to come out, as I was so ashamed.

The number one time that I get the irresistable urge to witter, is if I am outside walking somewhere, but I have to be careful, especially at night, as it is easy to turn a corner and suddenly bump into someone, or catch sight of someone approaching that I hadn't acknowledged quick enough while busy with my busy mind, who has obviously seen me verbalising into thin air, and this of course is very embarrasing, if it's someone I find attractive, especially so. I don't know why, but there is something about the rhythmic motion of walking that lulls me into wittering.

I do actually wonder if this is indeed OCD, or whether I have a form of Tourette's Syndrome, then again, I suppose Tourette's could be thought of as OCD anyway.

Regarding being out walking, wittering isn't the only form of OCD I have. I want to point out that I have never told a living soul about these little madnesses of mine by the way, so I hope I'm not on my own.

When walking, and again, it's something about the rhythm that lulls me into it, I also have imagery and sounds that enter my head, they don't make me feel uncomfortable, in fact I find it very comforting actually, much like the wittering, but when you find out what the noises and imagery are you might wonder why I derive satisfaction from it.

I will have elaborate imagery of violence and murder, limbs being hacked off, blood-curdling screams, torture, roaring and growling, sexual imagery, I see knives and tortuous implements and imagine what awful things could be done with them, scenes from horror movies, sometimes I feel like screaming or making sexual grunts, puffs and pants, and moans of ecstacy, which I will sometimes do under my breath but I've never actually succumbed to doing it loudly. I cannot helped but get lulled into this state of mind when out walking, but sometimes the urge is stronger than others, and if I have the urge to witter on about something then the imagery takes a back seat. This is probably all sounding more dramatic than it actually is, it just part of me, and I can't help it.

I am also a lifelong nail-biter, which is also OCD, although because it is relatively common, people don't often think of it like that. I have always bitten my nails very short, I don't ever remember them being to the ends of my fingers. I don't have any cuticles because I bit them all off as a child so continously, that they never grew back. When I am really bad with my nails, and if I get frustrated because they have been bitten down as far as they'll go, sometimes I have to start on my toenails, which can be a bit of an awkward stretch, but the compulsion pushes you to do it at all costs. I do confess that I must chew up the nails into little pieces and swallow them, I know that is disgusting, but it's part of the compulsion. The idea of throwing bitten nails away is unthinkable, and if I do discard them, I will be unable to resist the compulsion to retrieve them to be eaten. I even have a crooked tooth, between my right front tooth and incisor, from having fingers pressed against it all my life on a daily basis while biting nails off, and so it is pushed back a little. The stuff that you use to paint on your nails to stop you biting them, never really worked for me, you just get used to the taste, or when you have the bits of nail all chewed up, you just suck the bitter flavour off them, and spit it out, and swallow the nails on a glob of saliva anyway.

This is the same if I ever have a scab or a graze, it must be picked off, and when it is, I know that this is disgusting, then it must be eaten. If I come to my senses and throw it away, I'll have to retrieve it.

I also bite off and chew bits of skin from the inside of my mouth, when I was younger I used to do this more intensively, so that it would be bleeding and sore, I'm not as bad with it now, although I've always done it.

There was a phase that I went through in childhood, where I had an obsession for reflective symmetry, for example, if I bit the nail on my right index finger in three bites, then the nail on the left index finger would have to be bitten off in three bites, in order to 'balance it out'. If for example, I went over, and required four bites, then the right nail would have to be bitten again, even if there was nothing left, and to do so would make it bleed, but then I would have ruined the symmetry of it all, which would be very frustrating. This carried out into many things. If the right side of my nose itched, and I gave it five scratches, I would have to scratch the same number of times on the left side of my nose. If I scuffed my left shoe on a wall, I would have to scuff my right shoe delibrately, again, to 'balance it out'. Sometimes I would even have to hurt myself, such as banging a knee for example, I would have to bang the other by compulsion.

I am not as bad as this as an adult when it comes to reflective symmetry by way of OCD, but I am very particular about things being symmetrical.

Anyway, just wanted to share these things.

I was curious, does anybody else relate to the 'wittering', or the compulsive imagery in the mind?
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Draco
United Kingdom
  • Re: My Confessions.

    Tue, January 8, 2008 - 3:02 PM
    Draco, thank you for sharing! :)

    I talk to myself, but I never thought of it as an OCD trait before! Whoa!

    I often talk to myself at work if I think I'm alone, while I'm working on a problem. Then if someone catches me at it, I'll diffuse the situation by acknowledging it: "Ah, you caught me talking to myself!" :)

    I don't think only OCD people talk to themselves, honestly. It's a useful tool to work on problems.

    I also talk to my dogs and my baby, but that's pretty normal for non OCD people.

    I also have violent imagery. But it's more of a fear of my suddenly, say, picking up a chair and throwing it at people while in a meeting. Or the fear that, when I'm super tired, and my baby is crying and driving me nuts, that I'll pick him up and hurl him at the wall or something. It's upsetting imagery... I don't take comfort in it. But I know it's just the damned OCD brain-chatter, the damned "fear of the worst thing I could do" scenario thing going on. I know now finally that I really won't suddenly go psycho and do all those horrible things that my OCD makes me think I will do. I can more often tune it out, although my baby recently being born has made me tune it back in a little. I think it's a combination of the hormones amping up the OCD, and also the fact that as I'm super protective of my baby, the fear of my doing horrible things to him is also higher. Does that make sense?

    Like, you might have a stupid fear that you'd set fire to your mobile home. Then you move into a much nicer, more expensive home. Suddenly you fear of setting fire to your residence is much higher because you CARE about your new residence much more. You know?

    OCD is freaky, man. :)

    I also have a vivid imagination that I often put to GOOD use. Either for entertaining myself (I was alone alot as a child, so I tell myself stories), or to working on the next scene for a book I've been, heh, trying to write. :)

    And yeah, I skin pick, and chew on my lips, etc. And often want to eat the scabs from skin pickings. Or want to pick off scar tissue to re-open a long-healed wound. I have scar tissue upon scar tissue on one spot on my arm.

    Shoot, what else did you talk about? Symmetry... that was it. I had this thing when I was younger where I had to ensure I'd turned the same number of times to the left as I'd turned to the right, etc. I visualized this line of string tied to my back, and the idea of getting it wrapped too far one way was unpleasant. Of course, the idea that it was being dragged along all these routes that I wasn't going to be able to walk/ride back on the exact same way (in order to keep the string untangled) was also unpleasant. But it was never a strong enough compulsion to make me ask my parents to drive back along the same exact path we'd already taken.
    • Re: My Confessions.

      Wed, January 9, 2008 - 2:26 PM
      To be honest, I think probably most people talk to themselves to some degree, either as a means of organizing your thoughts, remembering what you need to buy at the store--those kinds of things, or playing out or replaying conversations, thinking what you'd like to say to a specific person, or what you wish you HAD said. Some of us even practice those conversations un front of the mirror. So, I think you're okay there!

      But, yeah, some of the other things, especially the symmetry thing, are pretty typical of OCD behavior. I have that to some degree. If I turn in a circle one way, looking for something or whatever, then I have to turn in a circle the other way.

      And, yeah, Snoops, I think we've talked about this before, but I have the inreasonable fear of doing something awful that I would never do. It feels like someday it might happen against my will, you know? The worst of it is that with me, the fear is that I'll take a kitchen knife to someone I love. It's pretty awful, and I'm SO glad there are people here I can say it to!! Not exactly something other people would understand.
  • Re: My Confessions.

    Thu, January 17, 2008 - 9:30 PM
    I have had OCD since I was 12 and am now 30. It always has been "bad thoughts". If I take a step and think a bad thought then I must retake that same step. I washed constantly, then would be afraid not to sleep in my clothes, was afraid people would die around me, had to pick up paper on the ground in case it said something about someone dying, I bit my nails contantly and kept the pieces so that noone would pick them up off the ground and do things to me that way, it used to take me an hour to walk a quarter mile to school. These are just some quirks I suffered from. I did not get help until I was 18, then the medicine didn't ever really take it away. It helped relieve the depression and anxiety that coexist with OCD. At one time I was on 6 different meds at the max doses. As of last year I am off my meds. I only occasionally take Xanax to help with anxiety. All of a sudden my OCD was managaeble. I will always have OCD, I have accepted that. Sometimes it gets bad and sometimes it is easy. OCD is a horrible and painful illness. It ages you. Now the OCD I have is mainly thoughts and ruminations. By the way, the shower is one of the harder times I had with my OCD symptoms as well as when I vacuum. Thank you for sharing. When you hear others stories it makes you feel that you are not alone. OCD is so different for each person too, I find. Good luck to you.
  • Re: My Confessions.

    Fri, January 18, 2008 - 8:41 AM
    I have OCD and I do talk to myself. I put it down to having a rather lonely childhood. My brother was 5 years older than me and the there were not many kids on my street to play with. I amused myself with games by myself. Some of that was conversations with me. Just so I could have someone to talk to, to hear. I think it's just how I adjusted.

    I think now that I'm older, I'm so used to it that I often talk to myself. I mean, I get along well with me, so who cares. I do stand up from time to time so if others question me about it, I tell them I'm practicing hearing it aloud. Which isn't that far from the truth. Sometimes to hear your thoughts aloud make them easier to understand, less nutty than when they rattle around in your head. Or if they do sound nutty, you can adjust your thinking more easily.

    I don’t think of it as a problem. I don’t need to go looking for extra problems. I have enough.
    • Re: My Confessions.

      Fri, January 18, 2008 - 2:50 PM
      Ain't that the truth?!!
      • Re: My Confessions.

        Wed, January 30, 2008 - 8:23 PM
        Isn't OCD fun??? :)

        Have upped my meds after an OCD incident while I'm in post-partum.

        Then ironically, the shit hit the fan, and was glad my meds had been increased. [See my blog. Basically, hubby and I and my newborn baby Logan are sick, and hubby's Mom died. :P A few more things also are causing me issues, but those are the BIG ones.]

        We had the funeral last Friday. Because of the rain, they couldn't put the casket in the ground after the funeral, so we're doing that (and having a small ceremony) tomorrow.
        • Re: My Confessions.

          Thu, January 31, 2008 - 4:40 PM
          How was your OCD during pregnancy? I have been on meds for the last 12 years at high doses and just recently stopped them. I still take Xanax for when I become really anxious. I realized that during PMS I obsess more than normal. I have been worried about the pregnancy thing and have recetly been thinking of trying.
          • Re: My Confessions.

            Fri, February 1, 2008 - 10:37 PM
            It was pretty good during pregnancy, but I also was on zoloft thru all of the pregnancy. The dose was considered safe and it was better that he get a little anti-depressants/anti-anxiety medication through the umbilical cord than have a psychotic Mom going nuts with him along for the ride. :)

            Am on the zoloft also during the post-partum, so he's getting a little bit of that in the breast milk. Really, as long as the stuff continues to work, will stay on it. I'm ok with being on it for the rest of my life, if necessary. Heh... so is my husband, LOL!!! :)

            Oh, thanks for your warm thoughts on my situation. :) It's definitely been an "interesting" time. :P

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